Peloponnesian War vs. Vietnam War

-Both were initiated because of the difference and collapse of conventional values. In the Peloponnesian War (metaphorical/symbolic) and Clouds aspect (physical)
-Main message that if you stray away from traditional values or challenge the authority of old values, it will lead to consequences
-Importance of key alliances – those with more power always won (Sparta and South Vietnam won)
-There is the parallel of Pericle’s death in the Peloponnesian War and John F. Kennedy’s assassination in the Vietnam War – both were respected and held as important political leaders
-In Clouds, Pheidippedes is forced to attend the Thoughtery by his father Strepsiades in order to win a debate against creditors. However, instead of acting exactly as his father wanted, Pheidippedes turns against his father and argues that he should be able to hit his father and mother like how his father hits him. On the other hand, North Vietnam was creating havoc by trying to unify Vietnam under communist belief but failed causing a huge number of fatalities. These two are similar in that in both situations two parties who didn’t want to be involved were forced against their will and it caused a bigger conflict than before.
-In both Lysistrata and Hair, it talks about individuals who don’t want to partake in the war. In Lysistrata it talks about women who want their husbands and sons to be withdrawn from the war while in Hair it’s about individuals themselves who want to avoid being drafted.
-Athens’ surrender in disgrace can also be compared to the US forces leaving Vietnam in disgrace.

Movie Question

CENTAURS: Was there a religious aspect to the Peloponnesian war?

There was a religious aspect to the Peloponnesian war although the gods didn’t play an active role in Thucydides work because it was acknowledged that history was determined by the choices and actions of human beings. Instead, religion and the pieties played critical roles in the actions of the Spartans and Athenians because religion played such a big role in their society and time. The gods existed constantly in their minds and affected their decisions each and every day, as well as brought out the truth and justice in the war.

* None at all. The Peloponnesian War was a struggle between rival alliances in Greece involving about 300 independent city-states. The Vietnam War was a proxy war involving the takeover of South