Interview With The Vampire

by Anne Rice

"I see . . .' said the vampire thoughtfully, and slowly he walked across the room towards

the window. For a long time he stood there against the dim light from Divisadero Street

and the passing beams of traffic. The boy could see the furnishings of the room more

clearly now, the round oak table, the chairs. A wash basin hung on one wall with a

mirror. He set his brief case on the table and waited.

"But how much tape do you have with you?" asked the vampire, turning now so the boy

could see his profile. "Enough for the story of a life?"

"Sure, if it's a good life. Sometimes I interview as many as three or four people a night if

I'm lucky. But it has to be a good story. That's only fair, isn't it?"

"Admirably fair," the vampire answered. "I would like to tell you the story of my life,

then. I would like to do that very much."

"Great," said the boy. And quickly he removed the small tape recorder from his brief

case, making a check of the cassette and the batteries. "I'm really anxious to hear why

you believe this, why you . . ."

"No," said the vampire abruptly. "We can't begin that way. Is your equipment ready?"

"Yes," said the boy.

"Then sit down. I'm going to turn on the overhead light."

"But I thought vampires didn't like light," said the boy. "If you think the dark adds to the

atmosphere."

But then he stopped. The vampire was watching him with his back to the window. The

boy could make out nothing of his face now, and something about the still figure there

distracted him. He started to say something again but he said nothing. And then he sighed

with relief when the vampire moved towards the table and reached for the overhead cord.

At once the room was flooded with a harsh yellow light. And the boy, staring up at the

vampire, could not repress a gasp. His fingers danced backwards on the table to grasp the

edge. "Dear God!" he whispered, and then he gazed, speechless, at the vampire.

The vampire was utterly white and smooth, as if he were sculpted from bleached bone,

and his face was as seemingly inanimate as a statue, except for two brilliant green eyes

that looked down at the boy intently like flames in a skull. But then the vampire smiled

almost wistfully, and the smooth white substance of his face moved with the infinitely

flexible but minimal lines of a cartoon. "Do you see?" he asked softly.

The boy shuddered, lifting his hand as if to shield himself from a powerful light. His eyes

moved slowly over the finely tailored black coat he'd only glimpsed in the bar, the long

folds of the cape, the black silk tie knotted at the throat, and the gleam of the white collar

that was as white as the vampire's flesh. He stared at the vampire's full black hair, the

waves that were combed back over the tips of the ears, the curls that barely touched the

edge of the white collar.

"Now, do you still want the interview?" the vampire asked.

The boy's mouth was open before the sound came out. He was nodding. Then he said,

"Yes."

The vampire sat down slowly opposite him and, leaning forward, said gently,

confidentially, "Don't be afraid. Just start the tape."

And then he reached out over the length of the table. The boy recoiled, sweat running

down the sides of his face. The vampire clamped a hand on the boy's shoulder and said,

"Believe me, I won't hurt you. I want this opportunity. It's more important to me than you

can realize now. I want you to begin." And he withdrew his hand and sat collected,

waiting.

It took a moment for the boy to wipe his forehead and his lips with a handkerchief, to

stammer that the microphone was in the machine, to press the button, to say that the

machine was on.

"You weren't always a vampire, were you?" he began.

"No," answered the vampire. "I was a twenty-five year-old man when I became a

vampire, and the year was seventeen ninety-one."

The boy was startled by the preciseness of the date and he repeated it before he asked,

"How did it come about?"

"There's a simple answer to that. I don't believe I want to give simple answers," said the

vampire. "I think I want to tell the real story. . . '

"Yes," the boy said quickly. He was folding his handkerchief over and over and wiping

his lips now with it again.

"There was a tragedy . . ." the vampire started. "It was my younger brother . . . . He died."

And then he stopped, so that the boy cleared his throat and wiped at his face again before

stuffing the handkerchief almost impatiently into his pocket.

"It's not painful, is it?" he asked timidly.

"Does it seem so?" asked the vampire. "No." He shook his head. "It's simply that I've

only told this story to one other person. And that was so long ago. No, it's not pa'

"We were living. in Louisiana then. We'd received a land grant and settled two indigo

plantations on the Mississippi very near New Orleans . . . ."

"Ah, that's the accent . . ." the boy said softly.

For a moment the vampire stared blankly. "I have an accent?" He began to laugh.

And the boy, flustered, answered quickly. "I noticed it in the bar when I asked you what

you did for a living. It's just a slight sharpness to the consonants, that's all. I never

guessed it was French."

"It's all right," the vampire assured him. "ran not as shocked as I pretend to be. It's only

that I forget it from time to time. But let me go on. . . . '

"Please . . " said the boy.

"I was talking about the plantations. They had a great deal to do with it, really, my

becoming a vampire. But I'll come to that. Our life there was both luxurious and

primitive. And we ourselves found it extremely attractive. You see, we lived far better

there than we could have ever lived in France. Perhaps the sheer wilderness of Louisiana

only made it seem so, but seeming so, it was. I remember the imported furniture that

cluttered the house." The vampire smiled. "And the harpsichord; that was lovely. My

sister used to play it. On summer evenings, she would sit at the keys with her back to the

open French windows. And I can still remember that thin, rapid music and the vision of

the swamp rising beyond her, the moss-hung cypresses floating against the sky. And

there were the sounds of the swamp, a chorus of creatures, the cry of the birds. I think we

loved it. It made the rosewood furniture all the more precious, the music more delicate

and desirable. Even when the wisteria tore the shutters oft the attic windows and worked

its tendrils right into the whitewashed brick in less than a year . . . . Yes, we loved it. All

except my brother. I don't think I ever heard him complain of anything, but I knew how

he felt. My father was dead then, and I was head of the family and I had to defend him

constantly from my mother and sister. They wanted to take him visiting, and to New

Orleans for parties, but he hated these things. I think he stopped going altogether before

he was twelve: Prayer was what mattered to him, prayer and his leather-bound lives of

the saints.

"Finally I built him an oratory removed from the house, and he began to spend most of

every day there and often the early evening. It was ironic, really. He was so different

from us, so different from everyone, and I was so regular! There was nothing

extraordinary about me whatsoever." The vampire smiled.

"Sometimes in the evening I would go out to him and find him in the garden near the

oratory, sitting absolutely composed on a stone bench there, and I'd tell him my troubles,

the difficulties I had with the slaves, how I distrusted the overseer or the weather or my

brokers . . . all the problems that made up the length and breadth of my existence. And he

would listen, making only a few comments, always sympathetic, so that when I left him I

had the distinct impression he bad solved everything for me. I didn't think I could deny

him anything, and I vowed that no matter how it would break my heart to lose him, he

could enter the priesthood when the time came. Of course, I was wrong." The vampire

stopped.

For a moment the boy only gazed at him and then he started as if awakened from deep

thought, and he floundered, as if he could not find the right words. "Ali . he didn't want to

be a priest?" the boy asked. The vampire studied him as if trying to discern the meaning

of his expression. Then he said:

"I meant that I was wrong about myself, about my not denying him anything." His eyes

moved over the far wall and fixed on the panes of the window. "He began to see visions."

"Real visions?" the boy asked, but again there was hesitation, as if he were thinking of

something else.

"I didn't think so," the vampire answered. It happened when he was fifteen. He was very

handsome then. He had the smoothest skin and the largest blue eyes. He was robust, not

thin as I am now and was then . . . but his eyes . . . it was as if when I looked into his eyes

I was standing alone on the edge of the world . . . on a windswept ocean beach. There

was nothing but the soft roar of the waves. Well," he said, his eyes still fixed on the

window panes, "he began to see visions. He only hinted at this at first, and he stopped

taking his meals altogether. He lived in the oratory. At any hour of day or night, I could

find him on the bare flagstones kneeling before the altar. And the oratory itself was

neglected. He stopped tending the candles or changing the altar cloths or even sweeping

out the leaves. One night I became really alarmed when I stood in the rose arbor watching

him for one solid hour, during which he never moved from his knees and never once

lowered his arms, which he held outstretched in the form of a cross. The slaves all

thought he was mad." The vampire raised his eyebrows in wonder. "I was convinced that

he was only. . . overzealous. That in his love for God, he had perhaps gone too far. Then

he told me about the visions. Both St. Dominic and the Blessed Virgin Mary had come to

him in the oratory. They had told him he was to sell all our property in Louisiana,

everything we owned, and use the money to do God's work in France. My brother was to

be a great religious leader, to return the country to its former fervor, to turn the tide

against atheism and the Revolution. Of course, he had no money of his own. I was to sell

the plantations and our town houses in New Orleans and give the money to him."

Again the vampire stopped. And the boy sat motionless regarding him, astonished. "Ali . .

. excuse me," he whispered. "What did you say? Did you sell the plantations?"

"No," said the vampire, his face calm as it had been from the start. "I laughed at him. And

he . . . he became incensed. He insisted his command came from the Virgin herself. Who

was I to disregard it? Who indeed?" he asked softly, as if he were thinking of this again.

"Who indeed? And the more he tried to convince me, the more I laughed. It was

nonsense, I told him, the product of an immature and even morbid mind. The oratory was

a mistake, I said to him; I would have it torn down at once. He would go to school in

New Orleans and get such inane notions out of his head. I don't remember all that I said.

But I remember the feeling. Behind all this contemptuous dismissal on my part was a

smoldering anger and a disappointment. I was bitterly disappointed. I didn't believe him

at all."

"But that's understandable," said the boy quickly when the vampire paused, his

expression of astonishment softening. "I mean, would anyone have believed him?"

"Is it so understandable?" The vampire looked at the boy. "I think perhaps it was vicious

egotism. Let me explain. I loved my brother, as I told you, and at times I believed him to

be a living saint. I encouraged him in his prayer and meditations, as I said, and I was

willing to give him up to the priesthood. And if someone had told me of a saint in Arles

or Lourdes who saw visions, I would have believed it. I was a Catholic; I believed in

saints. I lit tapers before their marble statues in churches; I knew their pictures, their

symbols, their names. But I didn't, couldn't believe my brother. Not only did I not believe

he saw visions, I couldn't entertain the notion for a moment. Now, why? Because he was

my brother. Holy he might be, peculiar most definitely; but Francis of Assisi, no. Not my

brother. No brother of mine could be such. That is egotism. Do you see?"

The boy thought about it before he answered and then he nodded and said that yes, he

thought that he did.

"Perhaps he saw the visions," said the vampire.

"Then you . . . you don't claim to know . . . now . . . whether he did not?"

"No, but I do know that he never wavered in his conviction for a second. That I know

now and knew then the night he left my room crazed and grieved. He never wavered for

an instant. And within minutes, he was dead."

"How?" the boy asked.

"He simply w out of the French doors onto the gallery and stood for a moment at the head

of the brick stairs. And then he fell. He was dead when I reached the bottom, his neck

broken." The vampire shook his head in consternation, but his face was still serene.

"'Did you see him fall?" asked the boy. "Did he lose his footing?"

"No, but two of the servants saw it happen. They said that he had looked up as if he had

just seen something in the air. Then his entire body moved forward as if being swept by a

wind. One of them said he was about to say something when he fell. I thought that he was

about to say something too, but it was at that moment I turned away from the window.

My back was turned when I heard the noise." He glanced at the tape recorder. "I could

not forgive myself. I felt responsible for his death," he said. "And everyone else seemed

to think I was responsible also."

"But how could they? You said they saw him fall"

"It wasn't a direct accusation. They simply knew that something had passed between us

that was unpleasant. That we had argued minutes before the fall.

"The servants had heard us, my mother had heard us. My mother would not stop asking

me what had happened and why my brother, who was so quiet, had been shouting. Then

my sister joined in, and of course I refused to say. I was so bitterly shocked and miserable

that I had no patience with anyone, only the vague determination they would not know

about his `visions.' They would not know that he had become, finally, not a saint, but

only a . . fanatic. My sister went to bed rather than face the funeral, and my mother told

everyone in. the parish that something horrible had happened in my room which I would

not reveal; and even the police questioned me, on the word of my own mother. Finally

the priest came to see me and demanded to know what had gone on. I told no one. It was

only a discussion, I said: I was not on the gallery when he fell, I protested, and they all

stared at me as if rd killed him. And I felt that I'd killed him. I sat in the parlor beside his

coffin for two days thinking, I have killed him. I stared at his face until spots appeared

before my eyes and I nearly fainted. The back of his skull had been shattered on the

pavement, and his head had the wrong shape on the pillow. I forced myself to stare at it,

to study it simply because I could hardly endure the pain and the smell (r)f decay, and I

was tempted over and over to try to open his eyes. All these were mad thoughts, mad

impulses. The main thought was this: I had laughed at him; I had not believed him; I had

not been kind to him. He had fallen because of me."

"This really happened, didn't it?" the boy whispered. "You're telling me something .

.that's true."

"Yes," said the vampire, looking at him without surprise. "I want to go on telling you."

But as his eyes passed over the boy and returned to the window, he showed only faint

interest in the boy, who seemed engaged in some silent inner struggle.

"But you said you didn't know about the visions, that you, a vampire . . . didn't know for

certain whether . .

"I want to take things in order," said the vampire, "I want to go on telling you things as

they happened.

"No, I don't know about the visions. To this day." And again he waited until the boy said.

"Yes, please, please go on."

"Well, I wanted to sell the plantations. I never wanted to see the house or the oratory

again. I leased them finally to an agency which would work them for me and manage

things so I need never go there, and I moved my mother and sister to one of the town

houses in New Orleans. Of course, I did not escape my brother for a moment. I could

think of nothing but his body rotting in the ground. He was buried in the St. Louis

cemetery in New Orleans, and I did everything to avoid passing those gates; but still I

thought of him constantly. . Drunk or sober, I saw his body rotting in the coin, and I

couldn't bear it. Over and over I dreamed that he was at the head of the steps and I was

holding his arm, talking kindly to him, urging him back into the bedroom, telling him

gently that I did believe him, that he must pray for me to have faith. Meantime, the slaves

on Pointe du Lac (that was my plantation) had begun to talk of seeing his ghost on the

gallery, and the overseer couldn't keep order. People in society asked my sister offensive

questions about the whole incident, and she became an hysteric. She wasn't really an

hysteric. She simply thought she ought to react that way, so she did. I drank all the time

and was at home as little as possible. I lived like a man who wanted to die but who had

no courage to do it himself. I walked black streets and alleys alone; I passed out in

cabarets. I backed out of two duels more from apathy than cowardice and truly wished to

be murdered. And then I was attacked. It might have been anyone-and my invitation was

open to sailors, thieves, maniacs, anyone. But it was a vampire. He caught me lust a few

steps from my door one night and left me for dead, or so I thought."

"You mean . . . he sucked your, blood?" the boy asked.

"Yes," the vampire laughed. "He sucked my blood. That is the way it's done."

"But you lived," said the young man. "You said he left you for dead."

"Well, he drained me almost to the point of death, which was for him sufficient. I was put

to bed as soon as I was found, confused and really unaware of what had happened to me.

I suppose I thought that drink had finally caused a stroke. I expected to die now and had

no interest in eating of drinking or talking to the doctor. My mother sent for the priest. I

was feverish by then and I told the priest everything, all about my brother's visions and

what I had done. I remember I clung to his arm, making him swear over and over he

would tell no one. `I know I didn't kill him,' I said to the priest finally. `It's that I cannot

live now that he's dead. Not after the way I treated him.'

" 'That's ridiculous,' he answered me. `Of course you can live. There's nothing wrong

with you but self-indulgence. Your mother needs you, not to mention your sister. And as

for this brother of yours, he was possessed of the devil.' I was so stunned when he said

this I couldn't protest. The devil made the visions, he went on to explain. The devil was

rampant. The entire country of France was under the influence of the devil, and. the

Revolution had been his greatest triumph. Nothing would have saved my brother but

exorcism, prayer, and fasting, men to hold him down while the devil raged in his body

and tried to throw him about. `The devil threw him down the steps; it's perfectly obvious,'

he declared. `You weren't talking to your brother in that room, you were talking to the

devil.' Well, this enraged me. I believed before that I had been pushed to my limits, but I

had not. He went on talking about the devil, about voodoo amongst the slaves and cases

of possession in other parts of the world. And I went wild. I wrecked the room in the

process of nearly killing him."

"But your strength . . . the vampire . . .?" asked the boy.

"I was out of my mind," the vampire explained. "I did things I could not have done in

perfect health. The scene is confused, pale, fantastical now. But I do remember that I

drove him out of the back doors of the house, across the courtyard, and against the brick

wall of the kitchen, where I pounded his head until I nearly killed him. When I was

subdued finally, and exhausted then almost to the point of death, they bled me. The fools.

But I was going to say something else. It was then that I conceived of my own egotism.

Perhaps I'd seen it reflected in the priest. His contemptuous attitude towards my brother

reflected my own; his immediate and shallow carping about the devil; his refusal to even

entertain the idea that sanctity had passed so close."

"But he did believe in possession by the devil."

"That is a much more mundane idea," said the vampire immediately. "People who cease

to believe in God or goodness altogether still believe in the devil. I don't know why. No, I

do indeed know why. Evil is always possible. And goodness is eternally difficult. But

you must understand, possession is really another way of saying someone is mad. I felt it

was, for the priest. I'm sure he'd seen madness. Perhaps he had stood right over raving

madness and pronounced it possession. You don't have to see Satan when he is exorcised.

But to stand in the presence of a saint . . . To believe that the saint has seen a vision. No,

it's egotism, our refusal to believe it could occur in our midst."

"I never thought of it in that way," said the boy. "But what happened to you? You said

they bled you to cure you, and that must have nearly killed you."

The vampire laughed. "Yes. It certainly did. But the vampire came back that night. You

see, he wanted Pointe du Lac, my plantation.

"It was very late, after my sister had fallen asleep. I can remember it as if it were

yesterday. He came in from the courtyard, opening the French doors without a sound, a

tall fair-skinned man with a mass of blond hair and a graceful, almost feline quality to his

movements. And gently, he draped a shawl over my sister's eyes and lowered the wick of

the lamp. She dozed there beside the basin and the cloth with which she'd bathed my

forehead, and she ,never once stirred under that shawl until morning. But by that time I

was greatly changed."

"What was this change?" asked the boy.

The vampire sighed. He leaned back against the chair and looked at the walls. "At first I

thought he was another doctor, or someone summoned by the family to try to reason with

me. But this suspicion was removed at once. He stepped close to my bed and leaned

down so that his face was in the lamplight, and I saw that he was no ordinary man at all.

His gray eyes burned with an incandescence, and the long white hands which hung by his

sides were not those of a human being. I think I knew everything in that instant, and all

that he told me was only aftermath. What I mean is, the moment I saw him, saw his

extraordinary aura and knew him to be no creature I'd ever known, I was reduced to

nothing. That ego which could not accept the presence of an extraordinary human being

in its midst was crushed. All my conceptions, even my guilt and wish to die, seemed

utterly unimportant. I completely forgot myself!" he said, now silently touching his breast

with his fist. "I forgot myself totally. And in the same instant knew totally the meaning of

possibility. From then on I experienced only increasing wonder. As he talked to me and

told me of what I might become, of what his life had been and stood to be, my past

shrank to embers. I saw my life as if I stood apart from it, the vanity, the self-serving, the

constant fleeing from one petty annoyance after another, the lip service to God and the

Virgin and a host of saints whose names filled my prayer books, none of whom made the

slightest difference in a narrow, materialistic, and selfish existence. I saw my real gods . .

the gods of most men. Food, drink, and security in conformity. Cinders."

The boy's face was tense with a mixture of confusion and amazement. "And so you

decided to become a vampire?" he asked. The vampire was silent for a moment.

"Decided. It doesn't seem the right word. Yet I cannot say it was inevitable from the

moment that he stepped into that room. No, indeed, it was not inevitable. Yet I can't say I

decided. Let me say that when he'd finished speaking, no other decision was possible for

me, and I pursued my course without a backward glance. Except for one."

"Except for one? What?"

"My last sunrise," said the vampire. "That morning, I was not yet a vampire. And I saw

my last sunrise.

"I remember it completely; yet I do not think I remember any other sunrise before it. I

remember the light came first to the tops of the French windows, a paling behind the lace

curtains, and then a gleam growing brighter and brighter in patches among the leaves of

the trees. Finally the sun came through the windows themselves and the lace lay in

shadows on the stone floor, and all over the form of my sister, who was still sleeping,

shadows of lace on the shawl over her shoulders and head. As soon as she was warm, she

pushed the shawl away without awakening, and then the sun shone full on her eyes and

she tightened her eyelids. Then it was gleaming on the table where she rested her head on

her arms, and gleaming, blazing, in the water in the pitcher. And I could feel it on my

hands on the counterpane and then on my face. I lay in the bed thinking about all the

things the vampire had told me, and then it was that I said good-bye to the sunrise and

went out to become a vampire. It was . . . the last sunrise."

The vampire was looking out the window again. And when he stopped, the silence was so

sudden the boy seemed to hear it. Then he could hear the noises from the street. The

sound of a truck was deafening. The light cord stirred with the vibration. Then the truck

was gone.

"Do you miss it?" he asked then in a small voice.

"Not really," said the vampire. "There are so many other things. But where were we? You

want to know how it happened, how I became a vampire."

"Yes," said the boy. "How did you change, exactly?"

"I can't tell you exactly," said the vampire. "I can tell you about it, enclose it with words

that will make the value of it to me evident to you. But I can't tell you exactly, any more

than I could tell you exactly what is the experience of sex if you have never had it."

The young man seemed struck suddenly with still another question, but before he could

speak the vampire went on. "As I told you, this vampire Lestat, wanted the plantation. A

mundane reason, surely, for granting me a life which will last until the end of the world;

but he was not a very discriminating person. He didn't consider the world's small

population of vampires as being a select club, I should say. He had human problems, a

blind father who did not know his son was a vampire and must not find out. Living in

New Orleans had become too difficult for him, considering his needs and the necessity to

care for his father, and he wanted Pointe du Lac.

"We went at once to the plantation the next evening, ensconced the blind father in the

master bedroom, and I proceeded to make the change. I cannot say that it consisted in any

one step really-though one, of course, was the step beyond which I could make no return.

But there were several acts involved, and the first was the death of the overseer. Lestat

took him in his sleep. I was to watch and to approve; that is, to witness the taking of a

human life as proof of my commitment and part of my change. This proved without

doubt the most difficult part for me. I've told you I had no fear regarding my own death,

only a squeamishness about taking my life myself. But I had a most high regard for the

life of others, and a horror of death most recently developed because of my brother. I had

to watch the overseer awake with a start, try to throw oft Lestat with both hands, fail, then

lie there struggling under Lestat's grasp, and finally go limp, drained of blood. And die.

He did not die at once. We stood in his narrow bedroom for the better part of an hour

watching him die. Part of my change, as I said. Lestat would never have stayed

otherwise. Then it was necessary to get rid of the overseer's body. I was almost sick from

this. Weak and feverish already, I had little reserve; and handling the dead body with

such a purpose caused me nausea,. Lestat was laughing, telling me callously that I would

feel so different once I was a vampire that I would laugh, too. He was wrong about that. I

never laugh at death, no matter how often and regularly I am the cause of it.

"But let me take things in order. We had to drive up the river road until we came to open

fields and leave the overseer there. We tore his coat, stole his money, and saw to it hislips

were stained with liquor. I knew his wife, who lived in New Orleans, and knew the

state of desperation she would suffer when the body was discovered. But more than

sorrow for her, I felt pain that she would never know what had happened, that her

husband had not been found drunk on the road by robbers. As we beat the body, bruising

the face and the shoulders, I became more and more aroused. Of course, you must realize

that all this time the vampire Lestat was extraordinary. He was no more human to me

than a biblical angel. But under this pressure, my enchantment with him was strained. I

had seen my becoming a vampire in two lights: The first light was simply enchantment;

Lestat had overwhelmed me on my deathbed. But the other light was my wish for selfdestruction.

My desire to be thoroughly damned. This was the open door through which

Lestat had come on both the first and second occasion. Now I was not destroying myself

but someone else. The overseer, his wife, his family. I recoiled and might have fled from

Lestat, my sanity thoroughly shattered, had not he sensed with an infallible instinct what

was happening. Infallible instinct. . ." The vampire mused. "Let me say the powerful

instinct of a vampire to whom even the slightest change in a human's facial expression is

as apparent as a gesture. Lestat had preternatural timing. He rushed me into the carriage

and whipped the horses home. `I want to die,' I began to murmur. `This is unbearable. I

want to die. You have it in your power to kill me. Let me die.' I refused to look at him, to

be spellbound by the sheer beauty of his appearance. He spoke my name to me softly,

laughing. As I said, he was determined to have the plantation."

"But would he have let you go?" asked the boy. "Under any circumstances?"

"I don't know. Knowing Lestat as I do now, I would say he would have killed me rather

than let me go. But this was what I wanted, you see. It didn't matter. No, this was what I

thought I wanted. As soon as we reached the house, I jumped down out of the carriage

and walked, a zombie, to the brick stairs where my brother had fallen. The house had

been unoccupied for months now, the overseer having his own cottage, and the Louisiana

heat and damp were already picking apart the steps. Every crevice was sprouting grass

and even small wildflowers. I remember feeling the moisture which in the night was cool

as I sat down on the lower steps and even rested my head against the brick and felt the

little wax-stemmed wildflowers with my hands. I pulled a clump of them out of ,the easy

dirt in one hand. `I want to die; kill me. Kill me,' I said to the vampire. `Now I am guilty

of murder. I can't live.' He sneered with the impatience of people listening to the obvious

lies of others. And then in a flash he fastened on me just as he had on my man. I thrashed

against him wildly. I dug my boot into his chest and kicked him as fiercely as I could, his

teeth stinging my throat, the fever pounding in my temples. And with a movement of his

entire body, much too fast for me to see, he was suddenly standing disdainfully at the foot

of the steps. `I thought you wanted to die, Louis,' he said."

The boy made a soft, abrupt sound when the vampire said his name which the vampire

acknowledged with the quick statement, "Yes, that is my name," and went on.

"Well, I lay there helpless in the face of my own cowardice and fatuousness again," he

said. "Perhaps so directly confronted with it, I might in time have gained the courage to

truly take my life, not to whine and beg for others to take it. I saw myself turning on a

knife then, languishing in a day-to-day suffering which I found as necessary as penance

from the confessional, truly hoping death would find me unawares and render me ft for

eternal pardon. And also I saw myself as if in a vision standing at the head of the stairs,

just where my brother had stood, and then hurtling my body down on the bricks.

"But there was no time for courage. Or shall I say, there was no time in Lestat's plan for

anything but his plan. `Now listen to me, Louis,' he said, and he lay down beside me now

on the steps, his movement so graceful and so personal that at once it made me think

of a lover. I recoiled. But he put his right arm around me and pulled me close to his chest.

Never had I been this close to him before, and in the dim light I could see the magnificent

radiance of his eye and the unnatural mask of his skin. As I tried to move, he ,pressed his

right fingers against my lips and said, Be still. I am going to drain you now to the very

threshold of death, and I want you to be quiet, so quiet that you can almost hear the flow

of blood through your veins, so quiet that you can hear the flow of that same blood

through mine. It is your consciousness, your will, which must keep you alive.' I wanted to

struggle, but he pressed so hard with his fingers that he held my entire prone body in

check; and as soon as I stopped my abortive attempt at rebellion, he sank his teeth into

my neck."

The boy's eyes grew huge. He had drawn farther and farther back in his chair as the

vampire spoke, and now his face was tense, his eyes narrow, as if he were preparing to

weather a blow.

"Have you ever lost a great amount of blood?" asked the vampire. "Do you know the

feeling?"

The boy's lips shaped the word no, but no sound came out. He cleared his throat. "No," he

said.

"Candles burned in the upstairs parlor, where we had planned the death of the overseer.

An oil lantern swayed in the breeze on the gallery. All of this light coalesced and began

to shimmer, as though a golden presence hovered above me, suspended in the stairwell,

softly entangled with the railings, curling and contracting like smoke. `Listen, keep your

eyes wide,' Lestat whispered to me, his lips moving against my neck. I remember that the

movement of his lips raised the hair all over my body, sent a shock of sensation through

my body that was not unlike the pleasure of passion. . . "

He mused, his right fingers slightly curled beneath his chin, the first finger appearing to

lightly stroke it. "The result was that within minutes I was weak to paralysis. Panicstricken,

I discovered I could not even will myself to speak. Lestat still held me, of

course, and his arm was like the weight of an iron bar. I felt his teeth withdraw with such

a keenness that the two puncture wounds seemed enormous, lined with pain. And now he

bent over my helpless head and, taking his right hand off me, bit his own wrist. The blood

flowed down upon my shirt and coat, and he watched it with a narrow, gleaming eye. It

seemed an eternity that he watched it, and that shimmer of light now hung behind his

head like the backdrop of an apparition. I think that I knew what he meant to do even

before he did it, and I was waiting in my helplessness as if I'd been waiting for years. He

pressed his bleeding wrist to my mouth, said firmly, a little impatiently, `Louis, drink.'

And I did. `Steady, Louis,' and `Hurry,' he whispered to me a number of times. I drank,

sucking the blood out of the holes, experiencing for the first time since infancy the

special pleasure of sucking nourishment, the body focused with the mind upon one vital

source. Then something happened." The vampire sat back, a slight frown on his face.

"How pathetic it is to describe these things which can't truly be described," he said, his

voice loci almost to a whisper. The boy sat as if frozen.

"I saw nothing but that light then as I drew blood. And then this next thing, this next

thing was . . . sound. A dull roar at first and then a pounding like the pounding of a drum,

growing louder and louder, as if some enormous creature were coming up on one slowly

through a dark and alien forest, pounding as he came, a huge drum. And then there came

the pounding of another drum, as if another giant were coming yards behind him, and

each giant, intent on his own drum, gave no notice to the rhythm of the other. The sound

grew louder and louder until it seemed to fill not just my hearing but all my senses, to be

throbbing in my lips and fingers, in the flesh of my temples, in my veins. Above all, in

my veins, drum and then the other drum; and then Lestat pulled his wrist free suddenly,

and I opened my eyes and checked myself in a moment of reaching for his wrist,

grabbing it, forcing it back to my mouth at all costs; I checked myself because I realized

that the drum was my heart, and the second drum had been his." The vampire sighed. "Do

you understand?"

The boy began to speak, and then he shook his head. "No . . I mean, I do," he said. "I

mean, I . . .'

"Of course," said the vampire, looking away.

"Wait, wait!" said the boy in a welter of excitement. "The tape is almost gone. I have to

turn it over." The vampire watched patiently as he changed it.

"What happened then?" the boy asked. His face was moist, and he wiped it hurriedly with

his handkerchief.

"I saw as a- vampire," said -the vampire, his voice now slightly detached. It seemed

almost distracted. Then he drew himself up. "Lestat was standing again at the foot of the

stairs, and I saw him as I could not possibly have seen him before. He had seemed white

to me before, starkly white, so that in the night he was almost luminous; and now I saw

him filled with his own life and own blood: he was radiant, not luminous. And then I saw

that not only Lestat had changed, but all things had changed.

"It was as if I had only just been able to see colors and shapes for the first time. I was so

enthralled with the buttons on Lestat's black coat that I looked at nothing else for a long

time. Then Lestat began to laugh, and I heard his laughter as I had never heard anything

before. His heart I still heard like the beating of a drum, and now came this metallic

laughter. It was confusing, each sound running into the next sound, like the mingling

reverberations of bells, until I learned to separate the sounds, and then they overlapped,

each soft but distinct, increasing but discrete, peals of laughter." The vampire smiled with

delight. "Peals of bells.

" `Stop looking at my buttons,' Lestat said. `Go out there into the trees. Rid yourself of all

the human waste in your body, and don't fall so madly in love with the night that you lose

your ways'

"That, of course, was a wise command. When I saw the moon on the flagstones, I became

so enamored with it that I must have spent an hour there. I passed my brother's oratory

without so much as a thought of him, and standing among the cottonwood and oaks, I

heard the night as if it were a chorus of whispering women, all beckoning me to their

breasts. As for my body, it was not yet totally converted, and as soon as I became the

least accustomed to the sounds and sights, it began to ache. All my human fluids were

being forced out of me. I was dying as a human, yet completely alive as a vampire; and

with my awakened senses, I had to preside over the death of my body with a certain

discomfort and then, finally, fear. I ran back up the steps to the parlor, where Lestat was

already at work on the plantation papers, going over the expenses and profits for the last

year. `You're a rich man,' he said to me when I came in. `Something's happening to me,' I

shouted.

" `You're dying, that's all; don't be a fool. Don't you have any oil lamps? All this money

and you can't afford whale oil except for that lantern. Bring me that lantern.'

" `Dying!' I shouted. `Dying!'

" `It happens to everyone,' he persisted, refusing to help me. As I look back on this, I still

despise him for it. Not because I was afraid, but because he might have drawn my

attention to these changes with reverence. He might have calmed me and told me I might

watch my death with the same fascination with which I had watched and felt the night.

But he didn't. Lestat was never the vampire I am. Not at all." The vampire did not say this

boastfully. He said it as if he would truly have had it otherwise.

"Alors," he sighed. "I was dying fast, which meant that my capacity for fear was

diminishing as rapidly. I simply regret I was not more attentive to the process. Lestat was

being a perfect idiot. `Oh, for the love of hell!' he began shouting. `Do you realize I've

made no provision for you? What a fool I am.' I was tempted to say, `Yes, you are,' but I

didn't. `You'll have to bed down with me this morning. I haven't prepared you a coffin.' "

The vampire laughed. "The coffin struck such a chord of terror in me I think it absorbed

all the capacity for terror I had left. Then came only my mild alarm at having to share a

coffin with Lestat. He was in his father's bedroom meantime, telling the old man

good-bye, that he would return in the morning. But where do you go, why must you live

by such a schedule!' the old man demanded, and Lestat became impatient. Before this,

he'd been gracious to the old man, almost to the point of sickening one, but now he

became a bully. `I take care of you, don't I? I've put a better roof over your head than you

ever put over mine! If I want to sleep all day and drink all night, I'll do it, damn you!' The

old man started to whine. Only my peculiar state of emotions and most unusual feeling of

exhaustion kept me from disapproving. I was watching the scene through the open door,

enthralled with the colors of the counterpane and the positive riot of color in the old

man's face. His blue veins pulsed beneath his pink and grayish flesh. I found even the

yellow of his teeth appealing to me; and I became almost hypnotized by the quivering of

his lip. `Such a son, such a son,' he said, never suspecting, of course, the true nature of his

son. `All right, then, go. I know you keep a woman somewhere; you go to see her as soon

as her husband leaves in the morning. Give me my rosary. What's happened to my

rosary?' Lestat said something blasphemous and gave him the rosary. . . ."

"But . ." the boy started.

"Yes?" said the vampire. "I'm afraid I don't allow you to ask enough questions."

"I was going to ask, rosaries have crosses on them, don't they?"

"Oh, the rumor about crosses!" the vampire laughed "You refer to our being afraid of

crosses?"

"Unable to look on them, I thought; ' said the boy.

"Nonsense, my friend, sheer nonsense. I can look on anything I like. And I rather like

looking on crucifixes in particular."

"And what about the rumor about keyholes? That you can . . . become steam and go

through them."

"I wish I could," laughed the vampire. "How positively delightful. I should like to pass

through all manner of different keyholes and feel the tickle of their peculiar shapes. No."

He shook his head. "That is, how would you say today . . . bullshit?"

The boy laughed despite himself. Then his face grew serious.

"You mustn't be so shy with me," the vampire said. "What is it?"

"The story about stakes through the heart," said the boy, his cheeks coloring slightly.

"The same," said the vampire. "Bull-shit," he said, carefully articulating both syllables, so

that the boy smiled. "No magical power whatsoever. Why don't you smoke one of your

cigarettes? I see you have them in your shirt pocket."

"Oh, thank you," the boy said, as if it were a marvelous suggestion. But once he had the

cigarette to his lips, his hands were trembling so badly that he mangled the first fragile

book match.

"Allow me," said the vampire. And, taking the book, he quickly put a lighted match to the

boy's cigarette. The boy inhaled, his eyes on the vampire's fingers. Now the vampire

withdrew across the table with a soft rustling of garments. "There's an ashtray on the

basin," he said, and the boy moved nervously to get it. He stared at the few butts in it for

a moment, and then, seeing the small waste basket beneath, he emptied the ashtray and

quickly set it on the table. His fingers left damp marks on the cigarette when he put it

down. "Is this your room?" he asked.

"No," answered the vampire. "Just a room."

"What happened then?" the boy asked. The vampire appeared to be watching the smoke

gather beneath the overhead bulb.

"Ah . . . we went back to New Orleans posthaste," he said. "Lestat had his coffin in a

miserable room near the ramparts."

"And you did get into the coffin?"

"I had no choice. I begged Lestat to let me stay in the closet, but he laughed, astonished.

`Don't you know what you are?' he asked. `But is it magical? Must it have this shape?' I

pleaded. Only to hear him laugh again. I couldn't bear the idea; but as we argued, I

realized I had no real fear. It was a strange realization. All my life I'd feared closed

places. Born and bred in French houses with lofty ceilings and floor-length windows, I

had a dread of being enclosed. I felt uncomfortable even in the confessional in church. It

was a normal enough fear. And now I realized as I protested to Lestat, I did not actually

feel this anymore. I was simply remembering it. Hanging on to it from habit, from a

deficiency of ability to recognize my present and exhilarating freedom. `You're carrying

on badly,' Lestat said finally. `And it's almost dawn. I should let you die. You will die,

you know. The sun will destroy the blood I've given you, in every tissue, every vein. But

you shouldn't be feeling this fear at all. I think you're like a man who loses an arm or a

leg and keeps insisting that he can feel pain where the arm or leg used to be.' Well, that

was positively the most intelligent and useful thing Lestat ever said in my presence, and it

brought me around at once. `Now, I'm getting into the coffin,' he finally said to me in his

most disdainful tone, `and you will get in on top of me if you know what's good for you.'

And I did. I lay face-down on him, utterly confused by my absence of dread and filled

with a distaste for being so close to him, handsome and intriguing though he was. And he

shut the lid. Then I asked him if I was .completely dead. My body was tingling and

itching all over. `No, you're not then,' he said. `When you are, you'll only hear and see it

changing and feel nothing. You should be dead by tonight. Go to sleep."'

"Was he right? Were you . . . dead when you woke up?"

"Yes, changed, I should say. As obviously I am alive. My body was dead. It was some

time before it became absolutely cleansed of the fluids and matter it no longer needed,

but it was dead. And with the realization of it came another stage in my divorce from

human emotions.