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Descartes: Can this be real? Am I in a dream? This must be real since I have conscious thoughts that I can manipulate. I remember everything in life and who I am, but I can not use any of my senses. They would have deceived me anyways, they have done so in the past and will so again. What is this?
Socrates: You are not dreaming, for I am here as well. As for reality, I believe reality is twofold. Matter and a spirit reality. Based on the information I have gathered and from listening to you, it seems our minds have been separated from our bodies. Do not feel discouraged for this is a good thing. The body constantly has to deal with sensory appetites, which is like you said deceitful. Our body is not our true self. Our true self is our mind …show more content…
I came up with a method of doubt to determine what is actually real. I started with doubting the core foundations of what I have been taught growing up. I concur that the body and mind are separate. I theorized that the body was a extended and non-thinking, while the mind on the other hand was non-extended and thinking. After stating this, I came to the conclusion that the mind and the body must be two separate things and that the mind must be able to live without the body. Seems that I was correct given that we both can not use our sensory observations. Which we both agree, we can not trust. I figured this out by using a piece of wax. At first, the wax is hard and cold in my hands. There was not a doubt in my mind that this wax was hard and cold, according to my bodily senses that is. I then sat by the fire with the wax still in my hands, when the heat began to melt the wax in my hands. It was no longer hard and cold, but now warm, gooey, and malleable. My idea of the wax had not changed, it was still wax. According to my senses though, this was a completely and utterly different substance. Therefore I knew, the bodily senses are imperfect and can deceive while the mind is perfect and I can trust it. I concur with your statement regarding the soul being the conscious self. I am stuck in solipsism, where the self is all that I can truly know to exist. That I can not …show more content…
Knowledge is never-changing, it is concrete and eternal. I have come to this understanding that if one relies solely on their senses, they will never learn reality or truth. For example, putting a stick into water. You have an idea of what the stick is before putting it into the water. Long, skinny, hard and straight. But when you put it into the water, the submerged part looks to have bent and increased in size while the top remains the same. The stick does not actually bend in the water or increase in size, just our perception of the stick has changed. The world that is believed to be by the senses, is a world of illusion. The real world is invisible. To acquire true knowledge you can not pay attention to the sensible world. It is not all that different from a dream, and we both know how fast they can change. If things are constantly changing, how can we learn about them? Knowledge can not come from changeable and imperfect things. The corporeal world is imperfect. Therefore, I trust ideas over sensible objects. Reality and knowledge can only be found in our souls. To arrive at this conclusion I used the dialectic method to help extract the knowledge from the soul. In questioning an audience, usually other philosophers, I normally proceeded by asking them for a definition of a concept, a moral concept such as justice. I tried to use this method to

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